Comment on OTW Board Approves Meta Hosting on the AO3

  1. Hello Podcath!

    We understand that the announcement that meta will be a welcomed part of the AO3 has disappointed some, particularly in terms of how the decision was made. While there was no general post made announcing this internal process, the OTW was receiving feedback from users through various means. This included the cases of meta reported to our Abuse Committee, questions about it through our Support and Communications Committees, the occasional public comment, and the increasing visibility of non-fiction material appearing on the archive.

    Going forward though, we can expect user input to direct us in determining how meta should be defined, what concerns users have with its continued existence on the AO3, and how we can serve groups that support its availability, as well as those who don't want it to impact their use of the archive for other types of content. For example, any changes to our content policy have to undergo a public review period where feedback will be gathered for further modifications.

    We recognize that different mediums, such as podfic, will need different forms of information provided (such as your suggestion of running time) but there are some differences between the appearance of multimedia works here, which still need to be hosted elsewhere, and meta, which can be stored directly on the AO3. At the present time there are undoubtedly many vidders, podficcers and visual artists who prefer not to host links to their content here yet because of our current limitations. In the past week there were a series of posts made about the work of our Systems team, and the concluding post mentioned both our continued intention to make multimedia hosting happen in the future, but also the serious problems we will have to overcome before that day comes. In short, hosting meta is not likely to delay the implementation of multimedia hosting, and might even make some of the work that will be needed for it come sooner. All we can be sure of is that it is going to be a learning process for all involved.

    We welcome user feedback, even when it disagrees with our decisions, as this is a sign of a committed userbase who cares about this project. We hope that going forward we can continue to serve people with differing needs and expectations of the AO3 just as other fandom sites have also done.

    Claudia Rebaza
    Co-Chair, OTW Communications

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      But listening to those that complain isn't really community-based; it just means that those who complain got a voice and the rest of us who were hoping for a chance for input when it was brought to the table didn't. It also does not show the transparency that we were promised last fall!

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        This was a very complicated and time-consuming decision to reach, and some of the lack of transparency comes from the fact that there was 50% Board turnover while this conversation was ongoing.

        Ultimately, when the new Board convened for this term, we looked at the conversation that had been happening within and outside the Organization for the previous six months (according to the Board minutes the question of meta was first officially discussed by the Board on July 7th) and came to the conclusion that it was in the best interests of both our users and our staff that a basic decision be made as soon as possible. We had many users who had been waiting all that time to find out if their meta could stay on the Archive, and several committees, particularly Abuse and Support, who needed an answer in order to perform their duties properly.

        So, we narrowed the question of meta down as far as we could and looked at the one part of it that is ultimately a decision that the Board has to make: Does hosting meta fall under the purview of the OTW as described in our Mission Statement. And the answer we came to was yes.

        Determining how meta should be supported is a matter for committees and users. How multimedia hosting ultimately works on the Archive is also a question for our committees and our users. But determining whether supporting meta on the Archive is consonant with OTW’s mission falls squarely within the Board’s purview.

        We’re aware that our decision seems very abrupt, and we agree that more transparency would have been preferable. Your criticism on that point is entirely justified. The Board’s overall workload and the emotional burnout many of us were feeling regarding this topic were obstacles that prevented us from communicating effectively. We regret our shortcomings in this area and will strive to do better in the future.

        Cat Meier
        OTW Board Member

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          Thanks, Cat!

          That's the answer I really wanted to hear from the board, and I wish it had been included in the announcement. I'll still be worried about the ability to require media categories, but that's another issue entirely, and one that we'll hopefully get to eventually. But the fact that this was decided by the board and that y'all own up to making that decision was the point of contention for me. I agree that this is in your purview and I feel that it might have been better to just say that rather than mask it as a shared decision where the only stakeholders heard were those complaining loud enough one way or another. You eight (we're at eight now, right?) decided, and you were indeed elected (or appointed) and to me that's OK. We can't have every decision made by committee or by stakeholder referendum. Just please say that and acknowledge and own it. I really appreciate your candor!

          FWIW, I disagree ideologically with the decision, and am just realizing why as i'm trying to wade my way through this discussion and the fact that anything I might repost to AO3 would miss the vital conversations in comments that for me are the center of why any of my posts might be important. But that's my personal preference, and I totally understand and respect why others feel strongly about maximum inclusion.

          Anyway, ideological disagreements are for a conversation better held in journal space. Thank you for commenting and explaining the rationale for how and why this decision was reached and publicized now.

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