Comment on Resignation of OTW Directors

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    1. borgesfan666 Thu 27 Jul 2023 09:33PM UTC

      Natalie's stance on Pluralkit is perfectly reasonable. It's a serious accessibility issue to be in a server where it is not possible to block a user's messages.

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      1. vaderlingo Thu 27 Jul 2023 09:43PM UTC

        I agree. Natalia's statement was perfectly reasonable given how little time they had to make a decision before the chat began, and if anything, I hope they conclude against introducing PluralKit or a similar bot for future meetings in the official OTW discords. Those plugins introduce more problems than they solve, in my experience.

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        1. vaderlingo Thu 27 Jul 2023 09:52PM UTC

          The statement you linked to says "we will look into the risks and alternatives, and see if there is anything we can implement in the future to help people navigate the server." They literally say that they will do research. Mentioning that they are also open to suggestions isn't "putting the onus on" anybody.

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            1. borgesfan666 Thu 27 Jul 2023 10:32PM UTC

              Respectfully, as it stands it is hard to see how the server is actually inaccessible without a bot like Pluralkit. But I think my personal issue here is that this is being dredged back (by a white user) as even more fans of color are coming forward to discuss their experiences with racism from OTW.

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              1. Lady_Ganesh Fri 28 Jul 2023 01:15AM UTC

                Gat from Saiyuki, looking to the right

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        3. InsanityPrelude Thu 27 Jul 2023 11:54PM UTC

          If spectators aren't normally interacting anyway, then how does the lack of the bot make the server inaccessible?

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    3. singlemalter Fri 28 Jul 2023 12:32PM UTC

      what’s more important, catering to a condition that the scientific literature overwhelmingly shows doesn’t actually work in the whimsical way pluralkit users make it seem, or giving people the comfort of blocking users they’re uncomfortable with? frankly i don’t see how this is an issue

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    4. Soulstoned Fri 28 Jul 2023 04:46PM UTC

      DID simply does not work the way internet systems say it does and I resent the fact that people who want to roleplay a serious and debilitating mental illness have the gall to call it ableism when others don't want to play along, especially when playing along comes at the expense of being able to block users they don't wish to interact with. People in the chat had the nerve to compare wanting an unblockable bot to needing a wheelchair.

      It's not harassment to tell someone they're full of shit when they're spouting nonsense. That's just a regular internet disagreement. Harassment would be if they were followed to other platforms or sent repeated private messages after they chose to disengage. It would be if people were paraphrasing their words out of context to whip people into a frenzy against them. Harassment takes more than just an argument.

      But! If you see it as harassment, doesn't that speak to how important it is to be able to block users you don't want to see messages from?

      Even now when there are much more serious problems happening within the OTW, they want to take this chance to make things all about them, because that's what this is, it's a cry for attention. I hope the irony of bringing this up with an End OTW Racism icon is not lost on you.

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      1. PinkAxolotl85 Fri 28 Jul 2023 09:50PM UTC

        Well said! +1 The sheer audacity to call not wanting to use a highly exploitable bot for role-playing in an official venue ableism, and to then turn around and insult the volunteer's effort in the same breath. All while incredibly pressing issues of actual merit and importance about the future of the OTW are being discussed. There is no accessibility issue, nothing is stopping these people from interacting the same way as everyone else, other than they are being told to do so without a special little mark next to their name. I'm glad the OTW is taking the concerns and safety of their discord users seriously in this regard, at this time.

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        1. whatwitch Sat 29 Jul 2023 12:25AM UTC

          This has nothing to do with anything but I love your pfp! It's so cute

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          1. PinkAxolotl85 Sat 29 Jul 2023 12:28AM UTC

            Eee thank you haha, axolotls were such an obscure thing when I started going by it, they're so cute they deserve all the attention they're getting now 😄🥰

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            1. whatwitch Sat 29 Jul 2023 02:55AM UTC

              I knowww I love them! Lol as a nerd and axolotl enthusiast I was so happy when they got added to minecraft too. Heh. I like reading about conservation efforts for the wild axolotls, they are so interesting and cute

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      3. TigerMoon Sat 29 Jul 2023 04:57AM UTC

        Oh, very well said! There are so many other, more important issues OTW needs to work on addressing, like racism, harassment, and AI.

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      4. astralagooon Sat 29 Jul 2023 06:25PM UTC

        I wholeheartedly agree! And I think that this should be expanded not to just DID, but all mental/physical conditions. As an autistic + ADHD teen with a self-diagnosed personality disorder, I do sometimes experience ableism in the OTW and the fandom community as a whole. I want this to change.

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        1. Urikomou Fri 04 Aug 2023 12:21AM UTC

          Well, hopefully that change will come.

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