Comment on Alternative Summons for Emiya Shirou

  1. Redaer_Noitcifnaf on Chapter 4 Thu 16 Nov 2023 04:16AM UTC

    I mean, yeah, but the fact that Muramasa is a Pseudo-Servant and Ibuki-Douji is a Divine Spirit still shouldn't be able to be accomplished in a Grail System where humanity still exists (FGO is the exception). The only reason Muramasa is summoned is due to the ancestor thing as well as EMIYA having previously been summoned (Alaya and Gaia threw their hands in the air and gave up trying to keep unique matter unique).

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    1. InsaneMakaioshin on Chapter 4 Thu 16 Nov 2023 04:34AM UTC

      Medusa is a Divine Spirit.

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      1. Redaer_Noitcifnaf on Chapter 4 Thu 16 Nov 2023 04:55AM UTC

        If her Divinity wasn't degraded by her Monstrous Strength, you'd be correct, but she is a degraded Divine Spirit who is something closer to a Heroic Spirit. However, her E-Rank Divinity is a sign of her being a Heroic Spirit. Even Heracles with his A-Rank and Gilgamesh with his suppressed A+ Divinity would still be Heroic Spirits because they do not possess a Divine Spirit's Core or Authority. Heracles technically qualifies, hence his A-Rank, but he was not summoned as such this time around. Gilgamesh, on the other hand, never ascended to the Throne of Gods like Heracles did. Medusa was an Earth goddess who fell by becoming a monster (Gorgon). FGO's Gorgon is a special case where she became a monster but somehow kept her Divine nature.

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        1. InsaneMakaioshin on Chapter 4 Thu 16 Nov 2023 05:04AM UTC

          Fair enough.

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