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  1. No. No way he’d fall for that trap with Lyther in the picture!

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    1. So, he would regenerate into Missy right away. Also, I established in Chapter 4 of this fic that they still stabbed themself in the back (referring to Missy and Saxon in 'The Doctor Falls') as well The Yeat That Never Was. The latter likely wouldn't happen because with Lyther there he likely wouldn't bring the Futurekind/Talklofane back in time with him, negating the need for a Paradox Machine, and without the Paradox Machine there wouldn't be a 'Never Was' just a year that he was Prim Minister for.

      What should I do?

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      1. Well, he would probably set traps for the Doctor that didn’t involve a paradox machine. For example, he could have the Doctor arrested for suspected terrorism, and he could round up the Doctor’s companions from Classic and NuWho for similar charges. And Lyther could try and talk him down from his plans.

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        1. Oooo, I have an idea... I've ad this conversation between them in mind for awhile, where they talk about the Doctor and how Time Lords came to have regeneration... If you remember Chapter 4 of 'A Timeless Bond' took place completely in the time they were kids, right after Thelar jumped into the portal, and they had a conversation like this:

          [Maz: Lytherion, where is Thelar?
          Lyther: They jumped through a portal over there *motions towards the portals*
          Maz: And you didn't follow them?!
          Donna: Only you would do that, the idiot will find us eventually.
          Lyther: Not unless one of us finds them first
          Donna: You won't!
          Lyther: Only when I'm old enough to drive a capsule, I wouldn't break the law like that. We gotta ask our parents if they know where the portal leads.
          Maz: I still think it would have been a better idea to follow them, smack them for being stupid then destroy whoever hurt them.
          Lyther: Why do you think anyone would hurt them?
          Maz: Experiments probably, I've been reading ahead for school and we are the only species who can regenerate, at least currently...]

          I cut of Maz's last part early bc the prediction was all that mattered...
          Anyway, Lyther would mention something about Time Lords being able to regenerate and Thelar's jump into the portal... And being as smart as he is Maz would've guessed the connection between Theta/the Doctor and Thelar, just not having wanted to confront his prediction from when they were kids actually being true...

          Should I have them talk about this so long before Koschmaz's journey into the Matrix or keep in until they're Missy?

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          1. Wait until they’re Missy.

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            1. Should I still have Misy being in the vault under Saint Luke's University? I remember that they had a botched execution but not what they did to cause that... Was it the Cyberman thing from the Series 8 finale? Should they still do that?

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              1. No, you shouldn’t have Missy be in the vault under the university.

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                1. Okay, for something just a bit sooner, should Maz (Missy in this case) be in Day of the Doctor? It's not like the War Master's gonna show up, but like- idk, having a sorta-kinda on the wa to redemption Missy there (along with Lyther ofc) seems interesting, but would that be to many characters at once? Three doctors, one Missy, and one Lyther (or two, if The Moment counts)?

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                  1. Missy should be in “Day of the Doctor”, and no, that would not be too many characters.

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                    1. Okay, I have two questons first, should I keep the Doctor line-up as War, 10 and 11, switch War out with 9 (make him the one who fought in the war), or make it War, 9 and 10?

                      When Missy introduces to the Doctor, or Doctors that haven't met this regeneration of her should she tease them about not recognizing her (with maybe a little flirting), or should she be straight up when telling them?

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                      1. Switch out War with 9, and have Missy be honest when telling them.

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                        1. When did yhe War Master escape the war to the end of tje Umunjverse to become Yana? Was it before or after the Doctor's did their thing? I have an idea thst invol es Lyther ending up on his TARDIS instead of strtong off with the Doctors and Missy...

                          Should I do that? They (the Master) already staeted remembering their past life during the war, thought he was going even more mad then he already was... Should Lyther end up on his TARDIS or should the first time he meets her still be at the end of the universe?

                          Also, should there be multi9le.Lythers? Like bith 10'a and 11'a version, or should only 11's be there?

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                          1. The War Master escaped to the end of the universe before the Doctors did their thing. I like the idea of Lyther ending up on his TARDIS instead of starting off with the Doctors and Missy. Lyther should meet him at the end of the universe, and multiple Lythers is a wonderful idea!

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                            1. I have a plan for Lyther a d Maz to meet out of order a bit. So the first time he meets her is at the end of the Universe, but she meets 'Hard Saxon' before that, just bumping into each other at a chip shop or in the street or something, does that sound good or should they both meet each other flr the first time at the same time?

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                              1. Having them meet out of order sounds like a good idea!

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                                1. Thd first time he meets her is the end of the universe and yhe first time she meets him is... Hmmmm, could it be like 9's Lyther who ends up on the War Master's TARDIS? Or 11's

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                                  1. 11’s Lyther.

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                                    1. And when Lyther meets Saxon for the first time should it be during series 2, or earlier series 3? They end up back around 18 months before he becomes Prime Minister. She co7kd run into him at a chip shop or somewhere in public.

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                                      1. Early series 3, and she could run into him at a chippy.

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                                        1. He's buying her future self chips :) and... maybe she wasn't in the hospital during Smith and Jones? Or should it be a bit further on, like during The Lazarus Experiment?

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                                          1. She wasn’t in the hospital during Smith and Jones.

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                                              Okay! And thinking really fR forward I'm going to have Rpry tell Amy the Doctor had
                                              Is hus dad when they're kids, so there's no Amy crushing on the 9ld man in a young body. Cause I've been listening to Time L9rd Rock, specifically the band Chameleon Circuit, and two.of their songs are about the Doctor and Amy... One from Rory's POV (Mr. Pond) and the other I belive.from the sce e wjere Amy kisses the Doctor (called.Everything is Ending) and God, it's kinda gross, of course the Doctor doesn't reciprocate b7t, Amy YOU HAVE A FUCKING FIANCE WHO WILL KILL FOR YOU! So yeah, none of that. The Doctor didn't on9w ar first that Amy was marrying Rory, even in this AU, but she knew he was her future father in law.

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                                              1. Oh, good! I have a few songs from Chameleon Circuit, and they’re awesome! I also love the idea that Rory is the Doctor’s son, and I’m so glad Amy won’t be crushing on the Doctor! Well done!

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                                                1. Also... Corin (The Metaceisis) was still.crest3dmthe sake.as canon... which includ3s combining Donna's (still human at that point) DNA and Thete (fully Time Lord Doctor)'s DNA , and right after that Donna opens her watch.

                                                  Is Corin tech called crested in incest, or.do3s it other point because Donna was still human in the moment of her touching the severed hand?

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                                                  1. Still sounds like incest to me.

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                                                    1. So, maybe Martha instead? Or Sarah Jane? I would suggest Jacm, but with bus nearly immortal state.i dunn9 hiw that would affect Corin's lifespan, there can't be two full-time Doctors (even with Corin not being a Time Lord), what do you think?

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                                                      1. Maybe if Donna doesn’t open her watch until after Corin’s creation, it wouldn’t count as incest. I’d hate to see Sarah Jane or Martha lose their memories.

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                                                        1. Oh yeah, Erin's creation Hackensack ans then Donna opens the watch, that was the plan. Have Donna and Corin have their canon banter before Donna remembers her watch... A d now knowing what it is ahe decides to.kpe it.

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                                                          1. Pardon me for asking but what is Hackensack?

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                                                            1. I'll just resnd the whole message with the mistakes fixed

                                                              Oh yeah, Corin's creation happens and then Donna opens the watch, that was the plan. Have Donna and Corin have their canon banter before Donna remembers her watch... *And now knowing what it is she decides to open it.

                                                              (Sorry again for this confusion)

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                                                              1. That makes the most sense.

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                                                                1. Yeah, I would ask your help more, but these comment replies are looking very small, yk how AO3 comments are, so I'm not asking any more here. Maybe in the comment section of chapter 9 of A Timeless Bond/ It's even worse on mobile, even with my phone in landscape mode.

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